997 Carrera 4S prices are up 19.8% year-on-year and the split has widened into a chasm: a documented 997.2 manual coupe now clears $100k while a 997.1 cabriolet with no borescope and a resprayed nose struggles to make $40k.
Across 376 completed BaT auctions the 4S has sold 326 times — an 86.7% sell-through — at a median of $58,375 (mean $59,830, 25th pct $48,500, 75th pct $70,000, full range $22,500–$132,000). The trend is steeply up: the last 12 months median $66,500 against $55,500 the 12 months prior, +19.8%. By calendar year the medians read 2021 $56,997, 2022 $62,750, 2023 $56,500 (the dip), 2024 $63,749, 2025 $62,125 and 2026 $70,000 on 38 sales so far. The 2023 trough is the single most useful datum in the series: this model has already had one correction, and the current run is not a straight line.
The spread is what matters. In the analysed subset the median manual is $73,500 (n=31) against $62,250 for PDK (n=15), but transmission is a proxy for something bigger — the top of the market is almost entirely 997.2 (2009-2012) manual coupes with sub-40k miles and a clean engine report. 30k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed took $132,000; 38k-Mile 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed $126,000; 25k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed $110,000; 29k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed $108,500; 15k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed $105,000; 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed $99,000 at 23k miles. Against that, high-mileage 997.1 cabriolets sit in the high thirties to low fifties: 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed at 88k miles took $37,777, and another at 86k took $43,959. That is a 3.5x band inside one model.
The reserve-not-met pile tells you exactly where the ceiling is. Of the 60 recent cars analysed, 13 failed to sell, and almost all were 997.1 cabriolets or cars where a specific due-diligence question went unanswered. 43k-Mile 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed failed at $48,750 in July 2026, was relisted 20 days later and failed again at $48,250 — the same car, the same number, twice. 34k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed stalled at $68,777 after the seller promised a borescope and never posted results. 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed with 51k miles failed at $64,997 on a six-year service documentation gap. The market is not rejecting these cars on condition; it is rejecting them on unverified engines and optimistic reserves.
What actually moves numbers now is evidence, not miles. 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed with 59,000 miles sold for $89,997 — more than several sub-30k-mile 997.1s — because it arrived with a clean borescope, a June 2026 Blackstone oil analysis, a clean DME report and $10k of recent cooling-system work. One commenter wrote "Wow what am I missing? This has to be $30k above market value!!!" It wasn't; it was priced as a de-risked car. Meanwhile 9k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, with a third of the miles, made $96,500 after a commenter pointedly noted "That higher mileage S came with a clean borescope report."
The six highest sales in the recent set are all 997.2 coupes: 30k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $132,000, 38k-Mile 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $126,000, 25k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $110,000. No 997.1 coupe in the set cleared $96,500. Commenters make the mechanism explicit — on 15k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, robfleming wrote "It's a 2009 997.2, with the 3.8L 9A1 motor – not a 3.6 with potential bore score issues. The market starts at 60K." On No Reserve: 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, Oregondave: ".2's are much more desirable as they carry far less risk of catastrophic engine failure."
29k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed made $108,500 while No Reserve: 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe (PDK, 66k miles) made $62,750 and 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe (PDK, 125k) $45,000. On 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed (71k, RNM at $68,000), UnclePeco calculated "you're looking at one of less than 400 cars produced" for US manual 997.2 C4S coupes — though on 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed, threebirch pushed back that "over 760 ish 6-speeds were likely produced in 2009," so treat the rarity rhetoric with care. Note the PDK sample is only 15 cars.
15k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed took $105,000 while No Reserve: 13k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet took $76,057 with 2k fewer miles. 27k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed (manual, CPO history) made $77,000 against $110,000 for 25k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed. Nearly every reserve-not-met car in the recent set is a cabriolet.
2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at 59,000 miles sold $89,997 with clean borescope, June 2026 oil analysis and clean DME — Turbopowered_gsr: "wow – this is incredible value for a 997.1 and a well sorted one at that! someone is getting a really nice ride and already borescoped!" 28k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed made $76,500 with bore scoring inspection and compression test shared in-thread. Conversely 34k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed failed at $68,777 after the seller agreed to a borescope and never posted results, and 43k-Mile 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed failed twice at ~$48k after the seller said "We did not scope it, nor have we scoped 99% of our 997s."
The mileage ladder in the data is steep and fairly monotonic within generation: 9,000 mi -> $96,500 (9k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed); 24,000 mi -> $79,000 (24k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed); 77,000 mi -> $49,000 (2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed). On the 997.2 side 15,000 mi -> $105,000 against 125,000 mi -> $45,000. But note the inversion: 59,000 mi -> $89,997 on a fully documented car beats several sub-30k cars, so miles alone do not set the number.
30k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed in Porsche Racing Green Metallic over sand beige took $132,000 despite a Carfax accident flag, a sunroof ding and sharpie touch-up on the rear arch — AMGBME: "This is one of the best specs + miles on a 997.2 I have ever seen. These almost NEVER come up." Conversely on 25k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, Frankie4218 concluded "Thought this would go for $120k+ but I guess no sports chrono played a role in the sub $120k price." Note the colour medians in the statistics are thin — only Black (n=12, $73,889) and Basalt Black Metallic (n=5, $64,120) meet the threshold, so this is inference from individual cars, not a colour table.
36k-Kilometer 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe X51 6-Speed sold $85,997 despite being a JDM import with federalization problems and a dead Japanese head unit, because it kept the carbon airbox, PCCBs and locking diff — Tedmundo: "This basically checks all the non-GT car 997 boxes." 28k-Mile 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe X51 6-Speed failed at $67,000 because the original X51 airbox and decklid had been stripped and sold between auctions. qikqbn77: "Without the original air intake, which is 3x's more valuable and desired than the after market intake... it is hard to tell if this is a true X51."
2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet with 61k miles and a 2013 run-off-road impact into a concrete barrier (airbag deployed, True360 documented structural damage) sold $44,000 — against $70,777 for 26k-Mile 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet. quadracer33: "With allot of accident history. Surprised it broke 40s." twj010104 compared his own structurally damaged 997 cab that sold for $26k.
23k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed — a 23k-mile 997.2 manual cab, spec that should be near six figures — failed at $65,000 because the Fabspeed exhaust is not CARB-compliant and the car was PNO-registered in California. JGordon5454: "the car should pass smog anywhere but CA. CA has a 'Visual inspection' which these parts fail under." 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed (the heavily modified 80k-mile GT Silver car) sold $55,500 with an intermittent P0430 and no California smog pass.
On 43k-Mile 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed (failed twice at ~$48k), RC30 wrote "Stone gray, destroyer of Porsche value, strikes again." 14k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed in meteor grey over stone grey made $78,000, which does not obviously support a big penalty, so treat this as thread folklore rather than measured.
| Spec | Median | Cars |
|---|---|---|
| Manual | $73,500 | 31 |
| Pdk | $62,250 | 15 |
| Colour | Median | Cars |
|---|---|---|
| Black | $73,889 | 12 |
| Basalt Black Metallic | $64,120 | 5 |
On 13k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed, 603bidder: "bore scoring can happen at any mileage, and there's no rhyme or reason to it... If they do fail, it's $10,000 to $20,000, depending on the extent of the rebuild." On 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe (the 16k-mile black/terracotta car), specialist Petethecarman: "even though this car has only 16k miles, I would still check for bore scoring... buyers should go in with their eyes open." On 9k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, omi205 explained why low-mile cars get more scrutiny, not less: "Higher mileage usually means you are safe. If it hasn't happened by 80,000 miles… then it likely won't happen." A minority view exists — kni7fer on No Reserve: 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed called the risk "completely overblown" — but sellers who refuse to scope lose money.
Check: Insist on a borescope of all six cylinders with images or video, plus a compression/leak-down test and a Blackstone-type oil analysis. Cold-start for blue smoke, listen for cold ticking (bank 2 / driver's side first), check tailpipe soot. A clean DME is not a substitute.
Petethecarman on 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe: "2007 4S has the large unserviceable 3rd Gen bearing... The Gen 3 non serviceable bearing that this car should does fail albeit at a much lower rate than the Gen 2 serviceable bearing." On 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed (the seal gray 77k car), ABSAME caught a common seller conflation: "the receipt you show is for the IMS seal and flange, not the IMS bearing, which is the part that fails." On 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed (48k, midnight blue), JulieS1983 gave the balancing view: "The 2006 has a more robust IMS bearing than the 2005 and prior. Failure rate is small." The worst case is visible in No Reserve: 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed Project, where metal shavings appeared in the oil within ~100 miles of purchase and campodf diagnosed "coppery metal in the filter indicates bearing material... I'm guessing spun bearings."
Check: Get the engine number photographed and decoded to confirm which bearing generation is fitted. Understand that on a 2006+ car the bearing cannot be swapped without splitting engine and transmission — budget for it as part of any future clutch job, not as a standalone. Oil filter media inspection and oil analysis for bearing metals is the cheap proxy.
On 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed (the 75k-mile Speed Yellow Aerokit car), the seller estimated $1.2-1.5k for the seep. handan disagreed at length: "what presents as a minor RMS seep often turns into a much larger project once the transmission is out... A thorough RMS replacement with IMS bearing inspection and upgrade on a 997.1 typically runs $9,000-11,000... bidders should realistically budget $14,000-17,000 to do this job right." On 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed (59k, sold $89,997), Turbopowered_gsr's "the RMS was right there when they did the clutch!" was answered with the clutch never having been done — meaning the job is still ahead of the buyer. Porscheslantnose opened 47k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet with the bare question "Rear main seal leaking?"
Check: Look for oil film on the bellhousing seam and a dime-sized drip pattern. Ask whether the clutch has ever been replaced and at what mileage; if no records and 70k+ miles, price in the whole engine-out job now.
47k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet had "rain sensor and soft top hydraulic cylinders replaced in 2024" with the seller noting failure "after ~10 years; common for this age/generation." On 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet (the Aqua Blue car), BigDogCars: "We installed a brand new Metropol Blue soft top and soft headliner, as a side cable had snapped and could not be repaired." 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed had "soft top hydraulic rams rebuilt August 2025," and 48k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed had "convertible top rams replaced August 2025."
Check: Cycle the top fully up and down twice in front of you, in the rain if possible. Look for hydraulic fluid weeping at the rams behind the rear seats, fold creases and wear lines where the fabric folds, and check the rain-sensor function.
2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed (59k, $89,997) had "water pump, thermostat, serpentine belt, coolant expansion tank replaced" in April 2025. 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe had a water pump in August 2026 right before sale. On 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet (the GT Silver PDK car), Jacksunoco summarised: "997.2 rock solid... The only thing that I have found that they eat a water pump here and there." Worst case, 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe at 123k: "There was a slight coolant leak and small tube was replaced – typical 911 style the engine had to be dropped."
Check: Pressure-test the system. Ask specifically about water pump date/mileage and whether the plastic coolant pipes have been addressed — on 997.2s the coolant tube job is engine-out.
On 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet (66k, GT Silver), MGB6: "It could be shifting fine, but the 40,000 mile trans service is important to the car, and it cost a few $, so it's nice to know it's been done!" The seller could not confirm it and offered to do it only if bidding hit $55k — it didn't. 47k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet (the 91-year-old owner's Ruby Red car) went to auction with the PDK "not serviced to knowledge" at 16 years old. The 108k-mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet shows what happens next: PDK hydraulic clutch unit replaced May 2024, then speed/distance sensors, control module reprogramming and clutch pressure sensors in January 2026.
Check: Demand a receipt for the PDK fluid and filter service. On higher-mileage cars ask specifically whether the hydraulic clutch unit or speed/distance sensors have been touched.
On No Reserve: 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe, DBSValley spotted "stone chips and touch-up paint at frunk latch area suggesting prying" and the seller confirmed "someone tried to pry open frunk." QS51 heard the seller say "can't get the mf-er open" in the walkaround video. 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet: "interior trunk release button does not work; trunk must be opened via key fob." 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet had the front trunk switch replaced December 2025, and 25k-Mile 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed had the speed-activated rear spoiler assembly replaced in 2019.
Check: Open the frunk from the interior switch and the fob. Look for chipped paint or prying marks around the latch — evidence someone has forced it. Run the spoiler up and down.
On 14k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, Tangerine997 established the front tyres were the factory originals with a 1/08 date code and then: "Aside from all 4 needing to be replaced, it appears that fluid's like gear oil, brake fluid, and front differential are also all original." The seller confirmed brake fluid had never been flushed in 17 years. 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed (59k, basalt black, $42,000) rolled on Continentals with 2015 date codes; TexCayenedriver's post-sale note was "Well bought. Change the tires and enjoy it!" 38k-Mile 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed had 2015 fronts and 2020 rears.
Check: Read all four date codes yourself and check they match. Ask for brake fluid, gear oil and front differential fluid receipts — time-based intervals, not mileage-based.
2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet (the arctic silver RNM at $32,000) had front bumper stress cracks resprayed at a Porsche body shop mid-auction; sghavim: "Just worried about paint blending as I have seen many examples where it's pretty obvious the bumper was repainted," and cvcoda concluded "$32k seems like a pretty good number... especially considering the lack of options and a respray on the front bumper cover." 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe disclosed "Front and rear bumper covers repainted under previous ownership" plus eight license-plate holes in the nose. 13k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed had "both bumper covers refinished in preparation for sale."
Check: Take your own paint meter to every panel. Compare bumper covers to adjacent metal. Ask when the work was done and by whom, and whether it was pre-sale reconditioning.
On 34k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed, ollieauggie: "Based on the orientation of the exhaust tail pipes looks like the drivers side is lower than the passenger side. Motor mounts may need to be replaced." On No Reserve: 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe, speedwerx made the same observation. 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed (RNM at $47,997) had it found on PPI: "flex plate was found to have slight cracking replaced as well" plus "rear struts were seeping" — at only 53k miles.
Check: Sight down the quad tips — asymmetry front-to-rear or side-to-side is the classic mount tell. Inspect the flex disc for radial cracking on the lift.
2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet at 108k: "The center instrument cluster display has damaged pixels" plus a worn steering wheel rim; richbob's post-sale verdict was blunt — "the interior is terrible for a 997.2, regardless of the miles. My 997.2 has almost 133K miles, and the interior is still pristine." On 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet (GT Silver, 66k), the seller said the console "cannot be repaired without removal and is made of soft-touch leather imitation material."
Check: Cycle through the centre cluster display looking for missing/yellow pixels. Feel the console soft-touch coating for the sticky-peel failure.
On No Reserve: 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed, Dani24, ASU-MSW and Oregondave all independently identified bubbling in photos 36-38 as clear coat failure; Oregondave confirmed the same from personal experience with a Guards Red 986S. The seller could not account for it. The car still made $71,500 at no reserve. Single-car evidence — treat as something to look for, not a known epidemic.
Check: Inspect the roof and horizontal surfaces in raking light for micro-bubbling.
Driver-grade, 997.1 (2005-2008): $38,000-$52,000 buys a 60-90k-mile cabriolet or a 75k-plus coupe with honest wear, some paintwork and no engine documentation. Recent examples: 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed at 88k for $37,777, another at 86k for $43,959, 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at 77k for $49,000, 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet 6-Speed at 80k for $49,500. Budget $5-10k of immediate deferred maintenance on top — tyres, fluids, mounts — and accept that you are carrying the bore-scoring risk uninsured.
Strong 997.1: $65,000-$80,000. A 40-70k-mile manual coupe with a clean borescope, service file and original paint. 40k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $72,000 and 36k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $79,000 are the benchmarks. The best documented 997.1 cars now reach $90-97k: 9k-Mile 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $96,500 and 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $89,997.
Strong 997.2 PDK: $60,000-$78,000 for 26-58k miles. 26k-Mile 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet $70,777; 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet at 58k $67,497; No Reserve: 13k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet $76,057; 37k-Mile 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet $85,500 was the top PDK result and needed rare colours plus a full file.
Best-in-class — 997.2 manual coupe, sub-40k miles, clean Carfax, documented: $100,000-$132,000, and rising. Five of these have closed above $99k in the last ten months. If you want one, understand you are buying at the top of a market that fell 10% in 2023 and has run +19.8% in the last twelve months.
Rule of thumb from the record: a 997.2 manual coupe costs roughly double a 997.1 cabriolet of the same mileage.

The highest 4S result in the entire 376-auction record, at 2.3x the all-time median. Porsche Racing Green Metallic over sand beige, 997.2, manual, 30k miles, borescoped, Blackstone report. It achieved this despite a sunroof ding, a Carfax accident flag from a rodent insurance claim, paint loss on the left-rear arch and an owner who had touched it up with a sharpie. Spec rarity swamped condition defects.

A heavily modified car — Shark Werks power kit and exhaust, EVOMSit tune, TECHART springs, OEM Sport Classic wheels sold off by a prior owner — with acknowledged gaps in 4yr/8yr factory service documentation, still took $126,000. Proves the market will pay top money for a 997.2 manual coupe with confirmed original paint (3.8-4.5 mil throughout) and enthusiast-grade work by a known shop. The winning bidder confirmed $126k was his ceiling, not an impulse.

At 59,000 miles this beat several sub-30k 997.1 coupes because it was fully de-risked: clean borescope, clean oil pan pickup screen, June 2026 Blackstone analysis, clean DME, $10k+ recent cooling and brake work, 16 years of climate-controlled single ownership. PorschePhi1's reaction — 'This has to be $30k above market value!!!' — is the point: verification is worth roughly that much on a 997.1.

The floor of the market, and a cautionary tale. Metal shavings in the oil, rattling on lift-off, suspected spun bearings and possible valve damage. REXRXPORSCHE: 'I spoke to 2 different shops and a true cost for the rebuild is $20k plus R&I.' At $25,000 the buyer paid roughly the cost of the engine rebuild for the rest of the car. This is what a 997.1 is worth when the engine question is answered badly.

A 61k-mile 997.2 cabriolet that should be a $65-70k car sold for $44,000 because of a 2013 run-off-road impact into a concrete barrier with airbag deployment and a 2020 True360 report documenting structural damage. The -35% structural-damage haircut, cleanly measured against 26k-Mile 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet at $70,777.

Honda K24 swap with a Link standalone ECU, permanent check engine light, unresolved parasitic drain, unable to pass Connecticut emissions and unable to complete CAN-bus VIN verification for registration. Sold $32,000 at no reserve. Interesting mainly as proof that an engine swap removes the IMS/bore-scoring discount but replaces it with a much larger regulatory one.

A genuine X51 with 28k miles that failed to sell at $67,000, while 36k-Kilometer 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe X51 6-Speed — a JDM import needing federalization with a dead Japanese head unit — sold for $85,997. The difference was originality: Notanothermiata documented that 'someone cashed in on the intake' between the 2021 and 2026 auctions, and the X51 decklid was also gone. Jt2010's summary: 'Small accident and none of the original parts come with it. The market has spoken here…'
The 997 C4S has bifurcated into two cars that share a badge. If you want to drive one, buy a 997.1 coupe at $55-75k with a documented borescope, a known clutch date and fresh fluids — 40k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed at $72,000 is the template, and qikqbn77's 100k-mile 16-year ownership on No Reserve: 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe 6-Speed shows they last. Take the cabriolet if you actually want the roof down; it saves you 20-35% and costs you a hydraulic ram job at some point. If you want to own an appreciating object, only the 997.2 manual coupe qualifies, and the entry fee is now $100k-plus for anything under 40k miles. What you should not do is pay 997.2 money for an unscoped 997.1, or 997.1-coupe money for a 997.1 cabriolet with a fresh bumper respray and a nine-owner Carfax — the reserve-not-met pile in this dataset is almost entirely made of sellers who tried.
These are patterns, not findings. A public auction record cannot show intent, and everything below has ordinary explanations — specialists and dealers bid on many cars of one model, enthusiasts run up cars they end up losing, and new accounts are usually just new. Read them as places to look closely, not as accusations.
watch Underbidder placed much of the ladder — Welfare placed 6 of 17 bids (35%) and did not win. Enthusiastic losing bidders are common; a very high share is still worth reading the thread for.
notice Price set by two accounts trading bids — 87% of the ladder is the same two accounts alternating. This is what a genuine duel looks like too — it only matters alongside another signal.
watch Closing bids came almost entirely from accounts with no posting history — 16 of 17 bids in the final 15 minutes (94%) came from accounts with under 25 lifetime likes (ends1, Jt2010, Toolman101, ThirdMan). The typical auction for this model runs 67%, so this one is an outlier. Note the measure is weak — likes come from commenting, so a long-time bidder who never posts also scores zero.
watch Closing bids came almost entirely from accounts with no posting history — 20 of 21 bids in the final 15 minutes (95%) came from accounts with under 25 lifetime likes (BridgeH2Ot, RobertAtlass, Ccfind1). The typical auction for this model runs 67%, so this one is an outlier. Note the measure is weak — likes come from commenting, so a long-time bidder who never posts also scores zero.
watch Closing bids came almost entirely from accounts with no posting history — 30 of 31 bids in the final 15 minutes (97%) came from accounts with under 25 lifetime likes (FlatSix_5, RBarber, kaimen, RacingisLiving). The typical auction for this model runs 67%, so this one is an outlier. Note the measure is weak — likes come from commenting, so a long-time bidder who never posts also scores zero.
watch Underbidder placed much of the ladder — Jdubbs87 placed 22 of 64 bids (34%) and did not win. Enthusiastic losing bidders are common; a very high share is still worth reading the thread for.
watch Closing bids came almost entirely from accounts with no posting history — 10 of 10 bids in the final 15 minutes (100%) came from accounts with under 25 lifetime likes (Jdubbs87, blwillia67). The typical auction for this model runs 67%, so this one is an outlier. Note the measure is weak — likes come from commenting, so a long-time bidder who never posts also scores zero.
notice Price set by two accounts trading bids — 69% of the ladder is the same two accounts alternating. This is what a genuine duel looks like too — it only matters alongside another signal.
watch Closing bids came almost entirely from accounts with no posting history — 12 of 13 bids in the final 15 minutes (92%) came from accounts with under 25 lifetime likes (ptingus, gene.mapes, Rm2guard). The typical auction for this model runs 67%, so this one is an outlier. Note the measure is weak — likes come from commenting, so a long-time bidder who never posts also scores zero.
notice Price set by two accounts trading bids — 63% of the ladder is the same two accounts alternating. This is what a genuine duel looks like too — it only matters alongside another signal.
watch Underbidder placed much of the ladder — SwissMovement placed 6 of 17 bids (35%) and did not win. Enthusiastic losing bidders are common; a very high share is still worth reading the thread for.



























































